April 10, 2007

An old post on a confusing Japanese grammar point

Here's where I check to see how Minx handles Aisan characters.

Japanese can be impossibly difficult to interpret at times. So much often goes unsaid that you're left struggling to make sense of what is going on. If that was the only problem, life wouldn't be so bad, but then you have the other end of the spectrum.

Japanese love relative clauses. An entire sentence can be used just to modify a noun within a larger sentence. It's a perfectly valid sentence. So what you get (though taken to an absurd extreme for the purpose of exercise) is sentences like this.


That is one complete sentence composed entirely of relative clauses within relative clauses.

The romaji version looks like this.

kore wa nomi no Piko sunde iru neko no Goemon no shippo fundzuketa Akirakun no manga yonde iru okaasan ga odango wo kau odangoyasan ni okane wo kashita ginkouin to pinpon wo suru osumousan ga akogarete iru kashu no oumu wo nusunda dorobou ni tomato butsuketa yaoyasan ga senkyou de eranda shichou no ireba tsukutta haishasan no horun no sensei no kao wo hikkaita neko no Sharuru no senaka ni sunde iru nomi no Puchi.

Note that Piko, Puchi, Akira, Sharuru (Cheryl), and Goemon are names.

The basic sentence is

kore wa nomi no Puchi.
This is Puchi the flea.

The rest of it all modifies the flea Puchi.

This is Puchi the flea that lives on the back of Cheryl the cat that clawed the face of the horn teacher of the dentist who made the fake teeth for the mayor elected (voted for) by the vegetable shop owner that threw tomatos at the thief that stole the parrot of a singer that was desired (longed for) by the sumo wrestler that played ping-pong with the banker that loaned money to the dumpling maker from whom dumplings are bought by the mother reading comics belonging to Akira who stepped on the tail of Goemon the cat on which lives the flea Piko.

Learning Japanese relative clauses as a native English speaker means learning to think ass backwards, but doing so is critical to becoming proficient with the language.


Not bad. Your mileage may vary depending on what fonts you have installed.

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Studied Japanese for two semesters.  I still have the basics, tho I lost all kanji (well, almost all) and my vocab is getting smaller all the time.  I can't remember how to do any tenses other than present, so I'm always stuck in the now when I try to say anything.  If I had more time, I'd spend some of it on learning more.  The most I do now is turn off the dub when watching a zatoichi flick or some animu...

Posted by: McGurk at April 12, 2007 09:16 AM (Ri74D)

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